Ticknall Limeyards

The Thringstone Fault crosses the parish of Ticknall from east to west, separating the Coal Measures clays to the south from the upthrust Carboniferous Limestone to the north. Other outliers of limestone occur at Calke, Dimminsdale, Breedon and Cloud Hill, but otherwise limestone is fairly rare in the area.

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Plan of the Ticknall Limeyards. Click to see larger image.

The Romans were well aware that the burning of limestone to make quicklime gave a material which, when mixed with sand and water, produced a mortar which provided a very effective bond between stones or bricks for the erection of buildings.

The number of Roman buildings still standing in Europe testifies to the quality of the Roman mortar. The limestone (calcium carbonate) was burnt with coal in order to reach the high temperatures necessary to burn off carbon dioxide, leaving quicklime (calcium oxide). In the 18th century, the use of coke instead of coal allowed higher kiln temperatures, which, in more sophisticated kilns, led to lime of much higher purity.

To make mortar, the lumps of quicklime from the kiln are placed in a pit in the ground and water is thrown on to the lime which becomes very hot and crumbles into a powder called slaked lime. The slaked lime is then mixed with sand to make a mortar which must be used before it hardens on exposure to the air. Modern cement has been prepared with a minimum of water so that it will keep for long periods.

Medieval land husbandry was very inefficient, and it was the fact that such crops as wheat or barley exhausted the soil, which led to the development of the three-field system. In this technique, one third of all the land was allowed to lie fallow or planted with a regenerative crop such as peas or clover every three years before it could produce another wheat crop. This was obviously wasteful of land and it was soon found that treatment of the land with a calcareous clay called marl together with farmyard dung improved the fertility of the soil. It was only another short step to the spreading on the land of lime from limekilns which helped to break up clay soils and “manured” the land to give improved crop yields.

The dual use of lime for mortar and for fertiliser led to the development of small local industries centred on limestone outcrops. Owing to the problems with transport, such industries would only have supplied their own local areas. Such an industry grew up at Ticknall. Unburned limestone from the quarries was also used in the area for building of houses, cottages and walls.

This article is taken from the booklet “The Ticknall Limeyards” first published in 1999 by The Ticknall Preservation and Historical Society, and is reproduced here (with minor revisions) with their kind permission. For a full list of contributors please see “Acknowledgements” at the end of the article.
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The Lime Burning Process

The kilns found in the Ticknall limeyards are representative of the type in use in the 18th and 19th centuries. They resemble an inverted oval cone, about 3.0 by 2.5 metres at the top, reducing to about 1.5 by 1.0 metres at the base. The base is converted into a tunnel with draw arches at each end to enable the burnt lime to be raked out of the kiln. The kilns were stacked with alternate layers of limestone from the quarries and slack coal. The coal was brought by horse tram from pits at Pistern Hills and Ashby Woulds and shovelled into the tops of the kilns from a high level tram track. Coal lumps were in demand for domestic use and it was perfectly satisfactory to use the smaller “slack” coal which was not suitable for the home fires. The base of the kiln was charged with brushwood or other inflammable material, this was ignited and the layers of coal up the kiln would burn in turn, converting the limestone to quicklime. The gases evolved included not only carbon dioxide from the limestone, but also sulphurous and other noxious fumes from the low grade local coal which was used. Pollution must have been dreadful. After about five days, all the coal would have burnt away and the kiln was left to cool for another five days and the quicklime raked out. The rate of burning was controlled by a sheet of iron placed over the top of the kiln. Some of the early kilns had square corners in the draw tunnel and workmen would have had to enter the kiln to empty it completely. As quicklime is corrosive to skin, eyes and lungs, one can only hope that the operators had some form of protection although it seems unlikely. The lime had to be kept dry to prevent it slaking and was shovelled into tram trucks on a low level track, which were presumably covered to keep the rain off. Blind tunnels in Cope’s Yard may have been used for storing burnt lime in dry conditions.

The bases of the kilns in Sir Henry’s Yard had no square corners in their draw tunnels and could have been emptied without entering the kiln. It is thought possible that these kilns could have been worked continuously and charged at the top and discharged at the bottom without the need to cool down the kiln. Due to a lack of quality control, the product raked out of the kilns was very variable and included quicklime, unburnt limestone, slag, ashes and cinders. This was of no use for making mortar, so good lumps of quicklime were picked out by hand and the remainder was shovelled up for use on the land, where the presence of ashes and slag was unimportant. In the 17th century, shovelled lime was sold to Melbourne Hall at 3d. a strike whereas picked lime was 4d a strike. A strike is a somewhat indeterminate volume measure: commonly it seems to be half a bushel which is 4 gallons.

Early Days in the Limeyards

The Constable of the Castle of Melbourne was purchasing limestone for the repair of the Bakehouse at the Castle and works at the Dam head in 1393; in 1411, limestone was purchased for repairing the water gate. It is probable that the stone came from Ticknall or Dimminsdale showing that the quarries were working at the time.

Although we cannot tell when lime burning first started at Ticknall, two indentures in the Harpur-Crewe Archive at the Matlock Record Office show that it was operating in the fifteenth century. The first deed is dated 14th October, 1462, and is a lease from Ellen Assewall to Symon Ragg of a limekiln with houses between the lands of Thomas Fraunceys and the Cellarer of Calke Abbey. The lease was for 6 years at a rent of 45 shillings a year. The second deed is dated 1st May, 1476, and is a lease from William Abell to Robert Fraunceys of “a parcel of ground lying in the south field in Ticknall, that is to say in a place called the Lyme Kilns betwixt the land of the Prior of Repton upon the north part and that of Thomas Fraunceys on the south part…” Robert Fraunceys was allowed to “Dig and mine stone, occupy the said ground to his most profit, making of lime … with free passage coming and going with all manner of carriages to the land…” The lease was for the life of William Abell and the rent was 12 pence a year. It is of interest that both of these deeds were written in English at a time when Latin was normally used for documents.

Just before the Dissolution of the Monasteries, in 1537, the Prior and Convent of Repton leased the land at Calke to John Priest, but the Prior reserved the right to burn lime in his kiln, which may have been at Calke, Dimminsdale or Ticknall.

The lime yards continued to become more important into the seventeenth century. There was quarrying of the limestone from the area just south of Main Street, which was later referred to as the “Old Town Yard”. In 1630, Sir John Coke purchased 72 loads of lime from Gilbert Hutchinson of Ticknall at a price of 9 shillings per load, for building his new house of Melbourne Hall. A load would be a cart-load, weighing about a ton. Gilbert Hutchinson sired a long line of Gilbert Hutchinsons, who were all in the lime business for the next two hundred years. They were providing lime to Colonel John Coke of Melbourne in 1680 as well as Thomas Coke for the rebuilding of Melbourne Hall and Gardens in 1704.

The inventory of John Crosse of 1644 includes 300 loads of limestone “allready gotten” with a value of £12.0s.0d. and stored on the waste. Crosse’s inventory included debts for lime and limestone already sold. Seventeenth century land terriers refer to land at Limekiln Flat, which is located along the lane leading to White Leys and shows that lime burning was occurring at this site. Land purchased by Sir John Harpur in 1690 included the Lime Kilns in Derby Way, in Knowle Hill Field. This is presumably the Paddock Wood area to the north of Main Street. In 1695, Francis Mee of Ticknall was paid by Sir John Harpur for getting limestone and burning it, some of which was used to repair Eaton’s house in Ticknall.

Expansion of the Limeyards

The last two kilns at work, in the 1930s.

In the eighteenth century, the demand for lime increased and Ticknall was al le to fulfil these demands. Quarrying and burning of limestone seem to have been somewhat haphazard, until a Private Enclosure of Ticknall parish was agreed between Sir Henry Harpur and other landowners in 1765. As Sir Henry owned about three-quarters of the area of the parish, there was little difficulty in persuading the minor owners to agree. The main limestone area to the south of Main Street was divided into 5 allotments: Gilbert Hutchinson, William Gilbert, Richard Sale, Sir Henry Harpur himself and the “New Works” of Margarets Close which were held by William Gilbert. To the north of Main Street were the New Works of Sir Henry Harpur and the works of Sir Francis Burdett. The freedom 6 given to the new lime proprietors, enabled them to quarry freely and to burn limestone within their own property. The boundaries between the properties were left unquarried and some of these can still be traced today. It was normal practice to quarry out the high quality stone until a particular area was worked out and then to build the lime kilns in the abandoned area.

The quality of Ticknall lime was recognised in the area and enclosure of neighbouring parishes such as Melbourne, Calke, Derby Hills and Ashby led to a demand for stone for building enclosure walls and lime to improve the fertility of previous waste lands such as Melbourne Wood and Ashby Woulds. In spite of the expansion, the kilns were still only operated part-time. In common with other industrial enterprises of the time, the owners were part-time farmers and spent much of their time sowing and reaping crops. James Pilkington, writing in 1789, observed: “…During the summer season many persons are employed at the kilns for burning limestone…”

Transport became important if the lime industry were to expand outside the immediate area of Ticknall. However, when a Turnpike road was proposed in 1771, to be built from Swarkestone Bridge to Linton Heath, passing through Ticknall, the local proprietors put forwards strong objections. It was claimed that the Turnpike would have the effect of a direct tax upon lime sold as manure and would obstruct the sale of the chief produce of Ticknall. Lord Melbourne claimed exemption for the inhabitants of Melbourne when fetching lime from Ticknall. The proposed Turnpike road was delayed and by 1813, it was built from Woodville to the Scaddows Gate and never entered the parish of Ticknall.

Nevertheless, for the industry to expand, better methods of transport than a horse and cart were required, and the Ashby Canal Company considered building a canal to Ticknall. The cost of this proved excessive and Benjamin Outram of the Butterley Company was employed to consider the feasibility of a horse tramroad connection from the Ticknall Limeyards to the Ashby canal at Willesley Basin. The full history of the tramroad is given in the Society’s companion booklet “The Ticknall Tramway”.

The Peak of the Yards

The census returns for Ticknall show a population rise from 1125 in 1801 to 1241 in 1851 and then a steady fall to 630 in 1901. (The population at the pre-sent time [19951 is about 660.) This almost certainly reflects the rise and fall of employment in the limeyards. The opening of the tramway in 1802 gave impetus to an increase in the production of lime. The cheap transport now available with access to the Ashby Canal meant that lime could be supplied outside the immediate area of Ticknall. In 1813, John Farey observed that “…Great quantities of this stone are sent away southward by the Railway Branch to the Ashby-de-la-Zouch Canal in Willesley…” Much of the central
portion of the limeyards had already been worked out and expansion was pursued in all directions except to the east where the limestone was overlaid by coal measures and Calke Park barred any progress.

Stone-crushing machine at Blackwater Pit

To the south, in Margarets Close, William Gilbert built four kilns and a steam engine on his freehold land, and incorporated a separate company called the Margarets Close Company. The purpose of the steam engine is uncertain: it may have been for pumping water out of the flooded quarry or to operate an inclined plane to hoist limestone from the quarry to the kilns which were built at a high level. However, as the engine house was known as The Whimsy House, it is more likely to have been used for hauling rather than pumping. To the east, Thomas Cope built a battery of four kilns adjacent to a branch of the tramway which had crossed the main road at The Arch and then recrossed it near the “Royal Oak”. The “Royal Oak” was occupied by Gilbert Hutchinson; the stile in the wall opposite the garage gave access to Hutchinson’s limeyard. As the quarries deepened, the eastern side of the limeyards suffered with problems of flooding and Cope had to erect an engine to pump out the water along a leat to the Town Brook. To the north of The Arch and the “Royal Oak”, Sir Henry Harpur himself, opened up new quarries in Paddock Wood where he built a range of 8 kilns. In the central portion of Sir Henry Harpur’s
Enclosure Yard, thirteen kilns were constructed with both high and low level tramway feeders. It is possible that these kilns were used to burn the limestone from the various leaseholders who were unable to finance their own kilns.

The Margarets Close Company

The Margarets Close Company was soon in trouble; it appears to have over capitalised itself. In 1802, the company sold £15 worth of lime for building Mr. Briggs’ new house in Kings Newton (now Elms Farm). An inventory was taken by the solicitor, Edward Mammatt of Measham, in January, 1802. This showed that the amount of money borrowed to finance the enterprise was £1440.19s.6d. whereas the money due was only £1000, leaving the company in deficiency. The steam engine with its pump trees, timbers and framing over the pit was valued at £550, 180 yards of iron railway at £94 and four lime kilns at £63. The assets included lime kilns at Ashby Woulds which were to be paid for either by Lord Moira or Mr. Wilkes. The company could only be made profitable by further borrowing and a target production of 12,000 tons of stone and 8,000 tons of lime per annum. It then seems to have gone bankrupt and this was confirmed when the area was excavated in 1987 by the Leicestershire Industrial History Society. One of the kilns excavated was found to he rebuilt from old materials but never fired. Along the top of the kilns were the remains of a narrow-gauge tramway, of 21 inch gauge, in distinction to the main Ticknall Tramway which was 4 ft. 2 ins. gauge. Joseph Butler of Wingerworth was producing narrow gauge railways of this type in 1788.

Sir Henry Harpur’s Yard

This was the central portion of the limeyards created by the Enclosure Award of 1765. As the owners of the other limeyards encountered financial or other difficulties, the Harpur-Crewe family were able to take over these yards and add them to their own, until they owned the whole area. Richard Sale’s yard was taken over in 1807 and the Burdett yards in the 1820’s. Gilbert Hutchinson was imprisoned for bankruptcy in 1833 and John Cope, who was heavily in debt, sold out to Sir John Harpur. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the Harpur Crewes had a monopoly of lime production, and the yards were leased to tenants.

The main tenant was originally Rowland Ordish who became the largest operator and in 1838, was burning 700 kilns a year, requiring 21,000 tons of limestone rock John Foster leased Cope’s Yard and burned about 100 kilns a year. Foster’s lease was withdrawn in 1843 and John Cope’s brother Thomas, took over the working of Cope’s Yard. The 1851 Census Return lists two limeburners: Thomas Cope who employed 10 men and Rowland Ordish who employed 36 men. Ten years later, both of these had disappeared and the sole remaining lime-burner was William Garrard who employed 18 men. Garrard worked the yards under the title of the Ticknall Lime Company. The Ordnance Survey map of 1882 shows 13 kilns with the tramway feeding a series of spurs to the tops of the kilns for unloading coal slack, and to the bottoms of the kilns for loading trucks with burnt lime. There were no other kilns elsewhere in the yards and it seems that the kilns in Sir Henry’s Yard dealt with all the limestone from the area.

Paddock Wood

These quarries were located north of Main Street and may have been opened up after the 1765 Enclosure Award. The 1843 Tithe Apportionment map and schedule show that the Paddock Lime Quarries were worked by Rowland Ordish. John Shaw’s 1857 map of Ticknall parish shows a horseshoe of eight kilns, with the tenancy held by William Garrard who also was working Sir Henry’s Yard. Archaeological investigation by The Leicester Industrial History Society revealed that this yard was in a very chaotic and ruinous state but the remains of seven kilns were identified.

The Burdett limeworks lay to the east of Paddock Wood. They were purchased by Sir George Crewe who built there a brickyard which is marked on the 1843 map, the 1857 map and on the 1882 Ordnance Survey map. This brickyard was then demolished and a new brick kiln, clay mill and drying shed built to the east. This new yard is marked on the 1899 O.S. map and much of it still stands today. Apart from flooded quarries, no signs remain of Sir Francis Burdett’s lime-works.

Cope’s Yard

Thomas Cope acquired land to the east of the main limeyards and the lane to White Leys farm towards the end of the eighteenth century. He had an agreement to open up limestone quarries and build kilns to make lime for sale. Cope built a battery of four kilns overlooking the quarry known as Dick’s Pit. The draw 12 arches below the kilns were connected by tunnels such that two adjoining kilns could be raked out into the same access tunnel. The Ashby tramway was extended from the Paddock Wood quarries near the “Royal Oak” along Main Street to Cope’s Yard. Parts of the tramway can still be recognised running along an embankment above the range of four kilns and between Portobello Pit and Dick’s Pit. Thomas Cope sold 3 tons of lime to Melbourne Hall in 1831 for £1.3s.6d.

Entrance to the mined area at Portobello Pit

The eastern end of the limeyards was always subject to severe flooding as may be seen today by the flooded quarries which are now a fisherman’s paradise. In order to overcome this, Cope installed an engine near Dick’s Pit for pumping water out of the quarries and parts of the brick-built leat for carrying water away are still visible. The engine was by the quarry called Engine House Pit, which goes by the alternative name of Peacock Pit, said to he named after a horse, which was drowned here when his waggon overturned and the horse was dragged into the pit. The enterprise of Thomas Cope was sold to Sir John HarpurCrewe for £2100 in 1853, following the death of Thomas.

Sir George Crewe opened up further quarries to the south of Cope’s Yard around what is now called Portobello Pit, in 1834, with John Foster as a tenant of these yards. Sir George was well aware of the problems with water and wrote to Lord Melbourne in 1840, asking for his agreement to dig a drain for about 300 yards into Lord Melbourne’s land at Derby Hills. He repeated his request again in 1843, but Melbourne declined to accede to the request as the culvert would carry so much water as to affect the drainage.

The Decline of the Yards

By the middle of the nineteenth century, the Harpur-Crewe family had obtained a complete monopoly of the Ticknall limeyards which were then leased out to a single tenant. Originally, this was Rowland Ordish, who was replaced in 1857 by William Garrard trading under the name of the Ticknall Lime Company. The Paddock Wood and the western limeyards were abandoned and quarry extensions were made in the south-east of the area, around Riley’s Close and Portobello Pit. A new method of quarrying was attempted, in which high quality limestone was mined by penetrating into the rock face, leaving an over burden of impure limestone which was supported by pillars of rock which were left standing. When abandoned, these caves formed popular picnic spots with the local inhabitants, but this practice ceased with the collapse of one of the caves, known as the “Dripping Wells”, in 1952.

By this time, the railway mania was sweeping the country and lines were built to places such as Buxton and Matlock, which enabled the produce of quarries in the Peak District to be transported by steam train all over the country. Ticknall with its primitive horse drawn tramway was unable to compete. There were technological advances in kiln design, and the primitive vertical kilns were replaced by horizontal kilns, which were heated indirectly to give a product lime which was not contaminated with coal ash and clinker.

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A picnic party in The Dripping Wells in the early 1900’s

Ticknall did not respond to the kiln improvements and in a very short time had lost all its markets, except the local ones required by the Calke estates, and the nearby Melbourne Hall, Foremark Hall and Staunton Harold Hall. The 25″ 1882 Ordnance Survey map shows that the Tramway extension to Cope’s Yard had been withdrawn and the north tramway branch terminated near the “Royal Oak”. The southern branch still fed the battery of 13 kilns in Sir Henry’s Yard and continued on to Riley’s Close. When the map was revised in 1899, all the tram rails within the limeyards proper had been lifted, and the only section of tramway remaining crossed the main road at the Arch and terminated at sidings behind the “Royal Oak”. Lime was then carted from Sir Henry’s Yard to a weighbridge on Main Street from where it could be loaded on to tram trucks or taken directly to its local destination.

awaiting_imageThe tramway was closed down in 1913, but intermittent lime burning continued for estate purposes only, until the last firing took place in 1940. The possibility of re-using the kilns in World War II was considered but abandoned in favour of the larger quarries at Breedon and Cloud Hill.

Bill for lime supplied to Melbourne Hall, 1861

The Limeyards Today

The Ticknall Limeyards are the property of the National Trust, Calke Abbey. The yards are a Site of Special Scientific Interest with a good variety of lime-loving plants for the botanist. The present luxuriant growth of vegetation was non-existent before the turn of the century. In the winter, “old man’s beard” (wild clematis) festoons the trees. Harts-tongue fern and the rare Hard shield fern occupy wet spots, and the ground cover is rich in Dog’s mercury and Ransomes (wild garlic). The purple orchid is common in places, together with wild strawberries but the bee orchid is now rarely seen.

Acknowledgements

We are grateful to Gary Marshall, Marilyn Palmer and Peter Neaverson for permission to draw freely upon their work reported in “The History and Archaeology of the Calke Abbey lime-yards”; Industrial Archaeology Review, XIV, 2, Spring, 1992, together with the use of the cover engraving.

The photographs and map insert are kindly supplied from the collection of Stuart Woodward.
Cartography by Mick Usher.

Please note: This is work in progress. Updates to the article will be made and more illustrations will be added soon. All photographs are copyright © Ticknall Life.

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“Ticknall, E. of the Town: here a great many dark grey and blue beds of Limestone are dug; and burnt together, without separation, which might perhaps be advisable, altho’ the Lime sold here is already in repute as a mild and useful Manure The Ticknall Works are at present in the occupation of Mr. Thomas Cope and Mr. Gilbert Hutchinson, who sell their lime at 3s. per quarter of eight heapt bushels, or at 8s. 4d. per ton. Great quantities of this Stone are sent away southward, by the Rail-way branch to the Ashby-de-la-Zouch Canal in Willesley, which passes through the Town of Ashby-de-la-Zouch….”

“A View of the Agriculture & Minerals of Derbyshire”,
Vol. II, (1813) John Farey.

On Walking in the Ticknall Limeyards

Perhaps their spirits linger yet, in this most glorious wood.
Those unknown men of yesteryear, whose labours for their food
Took heavy toll of human life. Their span of earthly tenure short
By dreadful dust of lime, inhaled without a second thought.

The medieval fields which topped the hill are all but lost.
In places, scant remains of ancient hedge atop the cliffs accost
The eye, to tell of boundaries marked between the yards
As lease from wealthy squire was made, to men who bargained hard.

O’er centuries the hill was raped, until the cliffs now stand
As high as are the pits beneath, which water filled and land
Locked, could not drain without the constant use of pump that
Long since ceased, as market for the product slow fell flat.

The many kilns which burnt the Lime to powder, killed all green
With puther from their poison breath, and nothing could Earth ween.
An hundred year now passed hath, and from the dreadful past
Such wondrous beauty now we see by Nature wrought at last.

Roy Hammerton. August 1994

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8 thoughts on “Ticknall Limeyards

  • 17 February 2016 at 6:48 pm
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    I have many ancestors in the Ticknall area and one in particular William Stringer born Ashby 3 1779 was mentioned in a newspaper report to be found in the British Newspaper Archive. Thomas Cope limeburner held a birthday party and invited aged and infirm residents of Ticknall. Much meat and home brewed ale was provided. The guests told old tales and experiences and William Stringer regaled the guests with his considerable vocal talents and he had been blind for 22 yrs following an explosion at a lime yard when in his mid 20s. He also read passages from the bible using a Mr Lucas`s system of embossed stenographic symbols on the thick paper. This system pre-dated Braille. I understand Ashby 3 is described as part of Derbyshire in Leicestershire. I believe it includes the villages of Packington and Ravenstone. William lived in the Ticknall Hospital. I would like to know the boundaries of Ashby 3.

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    • Bryan Smith
      17 February 2016 at 8:47 pm
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      Hello Ron,
      Thank you for your contribution to Ticknall Life.
      I note that this is not your first appeal for information about William Stringer. By coincidence I mentioned this to our local historian Stuart Woodward only yesterday when we were in the Limeyards with Jane and Malcolm Roberts also researching family history. He was unable to shed any light on the matter except to make the observation that, given the conditions, it would not be surprising for there to be accidents in the limeyards. I am not myself an expert but I would guess that the ‘hospital’ might refer to the almshouses.
      Ashby 3 means nothing to me, but I can confirm that today Ashby de la Zouch, Packington and Ravenstone are all in Leicestershire. Where are you?
      Regards,
      Bryan Smith

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    • 11 February 2018 at 7:02 pm
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      If you google Ashby Union you will find that Ticknall was included in the area of Ashby for the 1836 Poor Law Union. The boundaries are shown on the early large scale OS maps. Records may exist in the Leicestershire Archives in Wigston
      http://record-office-catalogue.leics.gov.uk/CalmView/Overview.aspx The village workhouse was somewhere in the area of the Grange/Cricket field, but had gone by the time of the OS survey. Wendy Freer has recently produced a record of the Ashby workhouse and this record nay help, although the age of childtren in mines is shocking. http://www.workhouses.org.uk/AshbyDeLaZouch/
      Is there a known record of when and where William died?

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  • 7 October 2017 at 12:28 pm
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    Hello Bryan. i have only just picked up your reply. I am located at Hucknall.

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  • 12 November 2017 at 8:50 pm
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    Hello Bryan,

    The Engine at peacock pit/engine pit as we young folk in the late 40/50’s knew it as, had a directly connected stone cracker attached, together with a rail line and bogies from Portobello pits, of which we used to ride and be pushed on them. The cracker was soon taken away, say early 50’s.
    There was never a mention of the engine being a pump at that time to any of us young ones.

    regards,
    John Decamps.
    Canada.

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  • 31 December 2017 at 2:37 pm
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    Hello,
    My husbands family came from Ticknall. Nathaniel Hill married Martha Hudson. In 1894 Wallace Hill Married Lydia Bloore. Do you know of anyone in Ticknall doing their Hill Family tree as he would really like to trace more of his families history.
    Many thanks
    Marie

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    • Bryan Smith
      31 December 2017 at 2:53 pm
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      Thanks for your comment Marie. Perhaps our go-to man for historical records, Stuart Woodward might be able to help.

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  • 1 January 2018 at 2:50 pm
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    Hi Marie
    Hill is a pretty common name in Ticknall many different families a lot may join if researched properly.
    Indeed I have Hill’s in my family tree.
    However in my research of the families of Ticknall I have come across Nathaniel and Martha and some if not all of the children, but I cant see anything re Wallace and Lydia.
    If you drop me an e:mail to stuhwoodward@aol.com I will forward everything I have on the Hill’s of Ticknall. Cheers Stuart

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